Friday Sep 22, 2023

#255 Genetic Counselor Burnout with Tiana Rogers and Nira Johnson Part 1

Over the next two episodes, we are discussing an important topic in genetic counseling that definitely is not talked about enough, burnout and transitioning to roles outside of the field. Joining us for this conversation are genetic counselors, Tiana Rogers and Nira Johnson.

Tiana Rogers is an aspiring digital designer and board-certified genetic counselor with direct patient care experience in prenatal and cancer genetics. She is currently a Content Consultant at My Gene Counsel where she investigates gene- and variant-specific updates and translates them into plain language for patients and caregivers, and a Genetic Counselor at Grey Genetics. She received her B.S. in Evolutionary Biology from Stony Brook University, and her M.S. from the Joan H. Marks Graduate Graduate Program in Human Genetics at Sarah Lawrence College (same class as our host Kira Dineen!). 

Nira Johnson is a genetic counselor turned graphic designer, who spent more than 10 years in cancer and prenatal genetics (mostly in industry) and about 5 years in graphic design. Now, her main goal is making accurate, patient- and provider-focused educational materials as well as science-focused art. She currently works as a graphic designer and consultant for Global Genes, and a marketing and development consultant for Clover Genetics. Nira also founded and owns her own freelance medical graphic design agency, Designs by NKJ! She received her AssociatesDegree in Graphic Design from Rasmussen University, and her M.S. in Genetic Counseling from Brandeis University. 

On This Episode We Discuss:

  • Tiana’s and Nira’s journeys to becoming genetic counselors and the most rewarding aspects of their roles  

  • Factors that can contribute to GC burnout

  • Challenges our guests faced while working in clinic and non-direct patient setting and how did they impacted their mental health

  • Strategies and resources to help cope with burnout and support to address mental health concerns in the GC field

  • How the field of genetic counseling and healthcare organizations can better address burnout and mental health challenges among practitioners and support well-being and career satisfaction 

  • Pursuing alternative career paths outside of genetic counseling and how GC skills can transfer to other roles

While recording this episode, both of our guests were adamant about continuing this important conversation surrounding burnout in genetic counseling, and they encourage anyone who is currently battling burnout or trying to prevent it to reach out to them via LinkedIn here: Tiana Rogers and Nira Johnson. Or email into and we will forward your message to them directly.

Be sure to check out our social media channels for details to enter our giveaway of artwork from Nira! 

Stay tuned for the next new episode of DNA Today on September 29th, 2023 where we’ll be continuing our conversation with Tiana and Nira on genetic counseling burnout! New episodes are released every Friday. In the meantime, you can binge over 255 other episodes on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, streaming on the website, or any other podcast player by searching, “DNA Today”. Episodes since 2021 are also recorded with video which you can watch on our YouTube channel.  

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